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a thought-stirring, positive post. As you may know, the Arnie Eisen has this year asked all Conservative shuls to talk about mitzvah and obligation, about what it means for Conservative Jews. I'm hoping to give a dvar Torah at PSJC on this subject, which naturally as a Conservative Jew I wrestle with. David, of course I know that you come out of the Reform movement and have long considered yourself a Reform Jew, albeit a more observant one than most of your co-denominationalists. Isn't the concept of halachic obligation really the dividing line between Reform and Conservative theology? Do you still consider yourself a Reform Jew? Not that any of us need labels, of course. But I am dafka a Conservative Jew because I believe in this concept, even if I don't always live up to my own ideals. Shabbat shalom. -Debra p.s. it would be great if you did some primary text learning with Ari on this topic when you see him.

Interesting comment, Debra... to be dafka a Conservative Jew because you believe in the concept. I more often than not find myself in the same situation which David has often described both on and offline. I believe in the concept of Reform Judaism. Does that make me (or anyone) a Reform Jew? More than believing in it, I have acted within it, for it, and upon it. But does that make me a Reform Jew? What is it that "makes" us Jews of one type or another? Is it about belief? Is it about action? Is it about comfort?

I ask this, because your comment is the first time I have heard someone align themselves with a movement based on the belief in the concept of the movement. It's quite intriguing, and will surely have me thinking for weeks now.... thanks!

On a side note... Singer.... you drink margaritas....I'm just going to leave it at that.

So much to say but I will keep it short and sweet b/c it is 10:45 pm and I must wake up early to daven RLW well umm Shacharit :)

To echo the words of R. Artson - We are all obligated to follow the mitzvot, 613 or any other combo. But there is a difference between internal obligation and external obligation. For those of us that live each day knowing God is "melech haOlam" our internal obligations and our external obligations from God align. For those of us who don't view God as a law giver we seem to only follow our internal obligations. The goal them seems to be to get out internal obligations to align with our external obligations. Reform, Conservative, Traditional are just boxes them help us realize our ultimate obligations or sometimes restrict us.

Just a few thoughts off the top of my head

Hahaha.

Thank you, Lyle, for quoting Artson. You've made my day.

And great points/questions Debra and Jesse. I appreciate them. I hope to continue this point further tomorrow with a second post.

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